i want to talk about good science today. did you study those in medical school? >> guest: i have. phages are in the body right now. otherwise we would swell up and die because bacteria double in size every 20 minutes. so we have good vision and bad fascia. we can reduce -- [inaudible] by 30-$40 billion per year. that's called waste. wouldn't you call it? by using bacteria fascia. sent the same information to senator barrasso is also a medical doctor. i'd like to send some information to you about the reducing of cdo cost curve for medicare and medicaid by 2%, just 2% adoption on fascia will reduce the cost curve. over in north carolina as we speak there are lawsuits. some people went to a county fair and got e. coli, et cetera, and officials there, epidemiologist said i know nothing of this. well, we have cre, -- post that i think we got the point that i think senator coburn probably has a response for you. >> guest: well, i think there's a lot of things that we're not doing that we can take a lead on and do. there's a recent article out that would save even more than that. talkin